Theophysics draft two - 2005/10/03 16:15Theophysics
Have you ever wondered if God exists? Can God's existence be proven by empirical science? If so, can God's attributes also be proven? And how would knowing such things benefit mankind?
If such a proof could be demonstrated it would put within all of us a knowing and a sublime and irrefutable faith to which could overcome the world of darkness and suffering.
Is the world ready for such a proof? We shall see;
The empirical laws proven in physics that apply to “closed systems” apply also to the entire universe. For there is no “closed system” that can exist or be imagined to exist in a universe that is not itself considered “closed”. For example if say energy were to be added to the universe in inert uniformity then there would be no measurable difference in energy in the universe. To illustrate this; if you had an electronic circuit which you put a power source such as a battery between it's “common” and the “ground” there would be no increase in energy in the circuit. This is called a “floating ground” in electronic design. Also if you were to argue that the universe is not a closed system then there could be a closed system in the universe that would violate the laws of physics. In some imaginary box of our closed system energy would some how be created or destroyed from within it.
“Nothing can be created from nothing.” (1) Therefore the substance of existence has always existed.
Energy is the substance of all existence and it cannot be created nor destroyed. (2)
Power (the transformation of energy from one form to another), exists.
Every transformation of energy is caused by another transformation of energy which is caused by another transformation of energy... etc ad infinitum. Therefore power is eternal. Energy (the substance of existence), has always been transforming.
Interestingly enough, energy has always been transforming in a gradual process into different and usually more complex or better forms. (3)
For example, the material universe was formed from energy that had a less complex form; supposedly a singularity. (4)
We also know that formations in a subset of the substance of existence are intelligent (I think or assess-feel, therefore I am). (5)
These same formations can and do create new formations that have intelligence to which can themselves create new formations that have intelligence ... etc ad infinitum. (6)
We can also notice that the formations of the substance of existence called humans, continue a gradual process into different and usually more complex or better levels of intelligence (The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge). The technology of the information age would be an example of their creation and their utilization of such formations to further increase in intelligence.
Reductio Ad Absurdum from the scientific facts of;
(7) The tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to transform toward a state of inert uniformity; and,
(8) The gradual process of transformations into different and usually more complex or better forms;
These are in fact blatant contradictions if the substance of existence has no intelligence.
Therefore, the substance of existence has intelligence and orchestrates advancements.
I do not subscribe to macro evolution (9) but evolution or advancement is an established fact to which proves the substance of existence has intelligence. Only intelligence can create formations that are intelligent or new, better, and of more complex form.
It may be a surprise to many but creation itself is merely the transformations of an intelligence. Not something made out of what did not already exist.
Scientists, philosophers and prophets throughout the ages have known of such a supreme intelligence to which they often called; God.
We ourselves are creatures of condensed energy, we are sentient beings of matter.
"All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds... the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter." (10)
Each of us are symphonic compositions of the matrix of God. "For by [God] we have life and move and exist" (Acts 17:28). Jehovah actuates our entire existence. "For out of [God], and through [God], and in [God] are all things:..." (Romans 11:36)
“Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power,.. Jehovah, the Creator,...is a God to time indefinite." (Isaiah 40:26-28)
I am sure it is now easier for many to understand just how God would have the attributes of “all power or all powerful”, “all aware or all knowing”, and even understand why God himself actually fills the entire universe. (Jeremiah 23:24)
A deeper understanding of ourselves is required to understand fully God's other attributes. Remember we are made in God's image and here it is;
"Each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire. Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to sin;..."--James 1:14-15.
Looking in the dictionary you will find that passion is an emotion and the object of desire.
D -> A
[Desire causes Action]
Desire is a function of Passion.
Therefore;
D(P) -> A
[Desire of Passion causes Action]
P = !E!
[Passion equals strong Emotion]
E = F
[Emotion equals Feelings]
Where F is bodily feelings or sensations.
Feelings are a function of Cognition.
Therefore;
E = F(C)
[Emotion equals Feelings of Cognition]
Cognition is a function of Language-use.
Therefore;
E = F(C(L))
[Emotion equals Feelings of Cognition of Language-use]
Restated for clarity;
D(P) -> A (1)
P = !E! (2)
E = F(C(L)) (3)
D(!F(C(L))!) -> A (4)
(1) Desire of Passion causes Action
(2) Passion equals strong Emotion
(3) Emotion equals Feelings of Cognition of Language-use
(4) Desire from strong Feelings of Cognition of Language-use causes Action
Basically, to change action one must change self-talk. Thus, if we see that actions are caused by desires which are a function of assessments which causes feelings, then we can change our emotions, desires, and actions by changing our assessments. (11)
"If anyone does not stumble in word, this one is a perfect man, able to bridle also [his] whole body..."--James 3:2, (James 3:3, 4).
These scriptures reveal word or language-use is the bridle of the whole body and even the rudder of inclinations.
As the logical equations and the bible point out; language-use (vocal and sub vocal) is the key to our being and the source of all sin we may experience. Equally it is the source of all righteousness and perfection we may experience.
Do you understand now why the Word of God has so much power in our lives? "For the word of God is alive and exerts power..."--Hebrews 4:12.
“Jehovah” the name that means God "causes to become" what so every he desires.
It would seem then that we are made in God's image. We act on our desires and God causes to become what he desires.
We are static material beings who act out desire. God is a dynamic being who transforms and causes to become his desire.
It seems to work similarly for both, by language use;
(Genesis 1:3) "And God proceeded to say: “Let light come to be.” Then there came to be light."
(John 1:1-3) "In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was divine. This one was in [the] beginning with God. All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence"
We are learning many powerful things today from this essay. But God says;
“He that does not love has not come to know God, because God is love.” (1 John 4:8)
What kind of love are we talking about here? The English word love can be defined as lust, so we know this is not a very accurate word to use for translating the Greek word agape.
More appropriate words pragmatically speaking would be compassion and charity. Charity is held to be the ultimate perfection of the human spirit, because it is said to both glorify and reflect the very image of the nature of God.
(John 3:16) “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.”
This love demonstrated in this verse was unconditional. God gave his son not because of any righteousness on our part.
For God has so much unconditional compassion for the world that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
(1 John 4:7, 9, 10, 12, 13, 16-19) “Beloved ones, let us continue loving one another, because love is from God, and everyone who loves has been born from God and gains the knowledge of God.... By this the love of God was made manifest in our case, because God sent forth his only-begotten Son into the world that we might gain life through him... If we continue loving one another, God remains in us and his love is made perfect in us. By this we gain the knowledge that we are remaining in union with him and he in union with us,... And we ourselves have come to know and have believed the love that God has in our case. God is love, and he that remains in love remains in union with God and God remains in union with him. This is how love has been made perfect with us, that we may have freeness of speech in the day of judgment, because, just as that one is, so are we ourselves in this world. There is no fear in love, but perfect love throws fear outside, because fear exercises a restraint. Indeed, he that is under fear has not been made perfect in love. As for us, we love, because he first loved us.”
What then of an atheist, if God truly is this unconditional love, compassion or charity? They must in some way be lacking in compassions complete expression. It turns out to be a fact. Not even one atheist in all the world will admit to having the intention or desire to unconditionally have compassion for all people. (Trust me I have actually conducted surveys of many atheists and told them to just find one case of such love). The Godless truly are lacking in the complete expression of charity. This would include many “theists”.
So here lays before us the keys to perfection and the nature of God;
D(dP) -> sA
Desire of defiled Passion causes sinful Action
D(cP) -> gA
Desire of comPassion causes godly Action
Having compassion within our hearts prevents us from being defiled by anything we see, hear, or feel. It truly is that powerful. It is simply impossible to have a defiled passion (such as lust) and compassion at the same time.
This is why when the angels, Christ, and God see us sin they do not become defiled. They have compassion for us in there hearts.
This is also why the daimons and satan are defiled, because they want us to be defiled and to defile.
Compassion is the realization that we are all one and connected. Your suffering is my suffering therefore I want to relieve it. Dark identification however is the opposite, Living by dark identification accounts for how we experience ourselves as disconnected, from compassion, and from God. The dark spirit has six beliefs;
1. I am what I have, my possessions define me. 2. I am what I do, my achievements define me. 3. I am what others think of me, my reputation defines me. 4. I am separate from everyone, my body defines me as alone. 5. I am separate from all that is missing in my life, my life space is disconnected from my desires. 6. I am separate from God, my life depends on God's assessment of my worthiness.
No matter how hard you try, Jehovah can't be accessed through spiritual darkness, so take some time to recognize and readjust any or all of these six beliefs. When the supremacy of darkness is weakened in your life, you can seek Jehovah and maximize your potential.
Awakening awareness of our cognitive feelings is not easy at first. It is just like a muscle. When we first start using it, it seems some what painful to really see who we really are. It was so much easier to be spiritually asleep, we often unconsciously say to ourselves. But I promise you the more you exercise awareness of your cognitive feelings the stronger you will become and you will eventually reach spiritual mastery.
To become perfect is like training yourself to become a well trained gymnast who learns from his sensory feeling to enable a somersault.
Only this time consider that a trained spiritual master learns from his cognitive feelings to enable a somersault into the inconceivable;
Yes, unconditional unattached compassion for all and emanating from you because you are in union with God.
Fill your work with compassion, view everyone with compassion. When you catch yourself cussing or lusting after someone meditate on your assessments which cause such actions. Proactively change them to compassion, all of them.
The situation is like a driver and a horse drawn carriage. You have been driving this horse drawn carriage down the same street every day. The driver is your language-use and the horse is your assessments-feelings. After driving down the same street for years the horse naturally follows the path it was trained without your need to guide it. Changing your driver or path (to compassion) you now experience a strain against the horse which wants to naturally follow the old paths (old ways of reasoning).
Knowing you feel the strain against old ways is actually a good thing, it shows your efforts to redirect your life into God's perfection. You will reach it. And you can today if you want to.
"What may be known about God is manifest..., for God made it manifest... For his invisible [qualities], even his eternal power and Godship, are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, ..." (Romans 1:19-20)
I have demonstrated these words which point out that Jehovah's eternal power and Godship is known and manifest to us by the physical realities we perceive.
What you have just read is a composition of years of research, blood, sweat, and tears. Thousands of sources of co-operatively developed insight. And thousands of hours of peer review. It demonstrates some of the most advanced levels of science we have today. More importantly it is empowering, practical, and liberating.
I am becoming more powerful (compassionate) in God every day. I know these truths work, they have completely changed my life. May God's power illuminate your life as you taste the miraculous experience for yourself and everyone else in your life.
Mars Turner
References;
(1)Lucretius; Epicurean poet, philosopher, and scientist. (2)The Law of Conservation of Energy. (3)Definition of evolution. (4)Observing the red shift of distant nebula suggests the material universe was created. (5)Cogito ergo sum; Descartes, father of modern science. (6)Artificial intelligence for example. (7)Definition of entropy. (8)Definition of evolution. (9)No theory of macro evolution assessed through mathematical or computational biology has been substantiated. The likelihood of the formation of living organisms from insensate phenomena has been demonstrated to be grossly negligible. (10)Max Planck; Inventor of quantum theory, from his speech as he receives the Nobel prize for his work in quantum physics. (11)Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy and Cognitive Theory of Emotion.
Theological Dialogue;
Some assume that God is far away from us sitting on a literal throne in heaven. This could not be further from the truth. “'The heavens, yes, the heavens of the heavens, themselves cannot contain [God]” (1 Kings 8:27). “In fact, [Jehovah] is not far off from... us.” (Acts 17:27)
"Jehovah proceeded to go down to see the city" (Genesis 11:5). “as for Jehovah, he was still standing before Abraham.” (look at Genesis 18) When such language is employed (Isaiah 64:1,2), it must be recognized for what it is - metaphorical language indicating or invoking a special manifestation of God's working either in grace or judgment.
Re:Theophysics draft two - 2005/10/04 05:15"What may be known about God is manifest..., for God made it manifest... For his invisible [qualities], even his eternal power and Godship, are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, ..." (Romans 1:19-20)
I have demonstrated these words which point out that Jehovah's eternal power and Godship is known and manifest to us by the physical realities we perceive.
I find it very intresting that there is no counter argument from anyone I have spoken to about this.
To simplify and help someone debate me here is the formal structure;
Assumtions; I believe these are proven facts;
(1) conservation of energy (2) entropy (3) evolution or advancement
Reductio Ad Absurdum;
(2) The tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to transform toward a state of inert uniformity; and,
(3) The gradual process of transformations into different and usually more complex or better forms;
These are in fact blatant contradictions if the substance of existence has no intelligence.
Therefore, the substance of existence has intelligence and orchestrates advancements.
There is actually no way to argue with me without trying to disprove empirical science itself.
The equations I demonstrated are the most advanced levels of psycology we have today. They are infact the equations of being, of sentience.
D(P) -> A (1)
P = !E! (2)
E = F(C(L)) (3)
D(!F(C(L))!) -> A (4)
(1) Desire of Passion causes Action
(2) Passion equals strong Emotion
(3) Emotion equals Feelings of Cognition of Language-use
(4) Desire from strong Feelings of Cognition of Language-use causes Action
It is true that I am the inventor of them. But they can easily be verified by Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy and Cognative Theory of Emotion to name a few. I stand on the shoulders of giants to establish these facts.Your Peace, Surrender, In You, YHVH Re-connect Co-operative
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Re:Theophysics draft two - 2005/10/04 21:03Theophysics
'What may be known of God is apparent, for God makes it appear. His invisible qualities, even his eternal power and Godship, are clearly seen from the world's creation onward, because they are perceived by the things developed.' (1)
Is eternal power apparent to us?
“Nothing can be created from nothing.” (2) Therefore the substance of existence has always existed. Energy is the substance of all existence and it cannot be created nor destroyed. (3) Therefore energy is eternal.
Power (the transformation of energy from one form to another) exists, and every transformation of energy is caused by an earlier transformation of energy. Therefore power is eternal.
Can we perceive development?
Energy has always been transforming in a gradual process into different and usually more complex or better forms. (4)
The material universe was formed from energy that had a less complex form; supposedly a singularity. (5)
There are formations of energy that are intelligent; 'I think or assess feel, therefore I am.' (6) These same formations can and do create new formations that have intelligence to which can themselves create new formations that have intelligence ... etc, eventually, ad infinitum. (7)
The compositions of energy called humans, continue a gradual process into different and usually more complex or better levels of intelligence (The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge). Technology of the information age would be an example of their creation and their utilization of such formations to further increase in intelligence.
Godship, clearly seen?
The tendency for all energy in the universe to transform toward a state of inert uniformity; (8) contradicts, the gradual process of transformations into different and usually more complex or better forms: (9)
Entropy (10) and evolution (11) are contradictions if development is not orchestrated by intelligence.
What may be known of God?
It may be a surprise to many but creation itself is merely the transformations of an intelligence. Not something developed out of what did not already exist. "All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds... the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter." (12)
Each of us are symphonic compositions of the matrix of God. "For by [God] we have life and move and exist" (13). Jehovah actuates our entire existence. "For out of [God], and through [God], and in [God] are all things:..." (14) “Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power,.. Jehovah, the Creator,...is a God to time indefinite." (15)
I am sure it is now easier for many to understand just how God would have the attributes of “all power or all powerful”, “all aware or all knowing”, and even understand why God himself actually fills the entire universe. (16)
References cited;
(1) Paul in his letter to the Romans chapter 1 verses 19-20.
(2) Lucretius; Epicurean poet, philosopher, and scientist.
(3) Law of the Conservation of Energy.
(4) Definition of evolution.
(5) Observing the red shift of distant nebula suggests the material universe was created.
(6) Cogito ergo sum; Renes Descartes, father of modern science.
(7) Artificial intelligence.
(8) Definition of entropy.
(9) Definition of evolution or development.
(10) Entropy applies to the universe as a whole because if the universe were not considered a closed system there could be closed systems in the universe that would violate the laws of physics.
(11) Development: not refering to macro evolution; No theory of macro evolution assessed through mathematical or computational biology has been substantiated. The likelihood of the formation of living organisms from insensate phenomena has been demonstrated to be grossly negligible.
(12) Max Planck; Inventor of quantum theory, from his speech as he receives the Nobel prize for his work in quantum physics.
(13) Luke in Acts of Apostles chapter 17 verse 28.
(14) Paul in the letter to the Romans chapter 11 verse 36.
Re:Theophysics draft two - 2005/10/05 01:41Polemotheos,
This is very exciting stuff to contemplate.
Thank you for revealing it here.
Here are some thoughts and questions I am having in regard to this:
There are formations of energy that are intelligent; 'I think or assess feel, therefore I am.' (6)These same formations can and do create new formations that have intelligence to which canthemselves create new formations that have intelligence ... etc, eventually, ad infinitum. (7)
You must be familiar with the energy = mass and mass = energy however, your statement above has me wondering if either of these can be converted to intelligence?
Does intelligence need to have mass?
Does intelligence need to have energy?
Or
Is it something separate from both of these?
In regards to your equations which you have revealed in the posts above I am wondering how demons are able to effect these to their own purpose (desire).
At some point inside your equations they are also able to partially possess the physical mass (or is it energy) of a human being.
A loop hole which they have been able to exploit for their own desire and comfort.
I also believe that "faith" as well as speech needs to become an integral part of your equations.
Why?
Matthew 21:21 21 In answer Jesus said to them: “Truly I say to YOU, If only YOU have faith and do not doubt, not only will YOU do what I did to the fig tree, but also if YOU say to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and cast into the sea,’ it will happen. 22 And all the things YOU ask in prayer, having faith, YOU will receive.”
I think it may be these kind of activities (a mastery of your equations and more) which will eventually reveal the sons of God:
Romans 8 18 Consequently I reckon that the sufferings of the present season do not amount to anything in comparison with the glory that is going to be revealed in us. 19 For the eager expectation of the creation is waiting for the revealing of the sons of God.
regards
ablebodiedman
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Re:Theophysics draft two - 2005/10/05 19:44"Entropy (10) and evolution (11) are contradictions if development is not orchestrated by intelligence."
Development or ordering is the maximization of entropy. Which means this argument is flawed and needs more work. There must be a proof of God without using dualism. I think I am on the right path with my realization that God is power. We shall see if we find it. I am thankful for what I have so far though and I am glad I can admit when I make a mistake.Your Peace, Surrender, In You, YHVH Re-connect Co-operative
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