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Re:From what do we flee? - 2004/11/11 09:12 Where everyone go hallo
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Re:From what do we flee? - 2004/11/11 12:50 I'm here.......
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Re:From what do we flee? - 2004/11/17 09:05 Hey SoC how you been jus been lookin at Paradise Cafe
Some interesten people there really touchie too but this week I notice that many still cling to the BWTS and it made me think you know we seem to need some sort of man or maybe see able system to workship Jehovah there is really no one like say Noah or Enoch or Abraham we seem to have the Idea that may stronger by Number I dont know Bra it seems like that.

The other day I was sitting on the beach, Man Bro what power what owe Jah has and I felt like I could talk to Jehovah right there and then, and jus lookin at it was like Jehovah was sayin (because we are on our own hr) that we're OK we here for a purpose each and everyone of us (yeah even you Bra HAHAHE LOL). I sort of feel like nothin maters to Jah but My kids wife and me and what a feelin it was. Bra I dont cry but it was there, it was so awesome never in all my baptised to the organization, life have I ever recieved such warm such strengh and such love.

My obligation is no longer to the Org, to man, but to my Family and Jehovah that is my life now its taken me this long Bra and now I have no fear I walk and talk my talk among all I incounter and at the moment I seem untouchable I no my time will come but Jehovah he works in some really wierd ways I been talkin to him about it but it all up to him bra I jus follow him right in to all they rubbish they been giving him and I can see and feel how we as his people have failed him
I gotta cruz, helping some bro move house

Ctcha on line bra take care and from our little big family down here we give all you a big fat and I mean as fat kiwistyles wave.

Give our love to all those related to us in Jehovahs Org
servent1 and family

Ps. Say a personal hallo to the kids and your wahine. :

Post edited by: servent1, at: 2004/11/17 09:07

Post edited by: servent1, at: 2004/11/17 09:12
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Re:From what do we flee? - 2004/11/17 09:14 Hey bro!
yeah, I've seen you over at e-w - some very nice posts bra!!

It sounds like you had a nice time at the beach - special moments like that with our heavenly father should not be forgotten!

I'll give the boy and his wahine a hug, and I'll give my wahine two hugs and a kiss!!

In the meantime, you give your wahine 6 or 7 hugs and kisses from all of us!!

BTW, all! I am processing some thoughts on the 'fleeing' and hope to post soon - so dust off your typing fingers and brains, I want some feedback!!
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Re:From what do we flee? - 2004/12/01 14:19 It's been a long time coming, but here goes...

Matthew 24: 1 - "Departing now, Jesus was on his way from the temple, but his disciples approached to show him the buildings of the temple. 2 In response he said to them: “Do YOU not behold all these things? Truly I say to YOU, By no means will a stone be left here upon a stone and not be thrown down.”
3 While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”

The temple was the earthly medium to approach God. Less than that, it was the group of buildings the High Priest and other priests used to approach God in. At the time the apostles asked Jesus the above question, what significance did these buildings have? This edifice had been the centre of worship for hundreds of years; it was a sacred, holy place. But it, and the festivals and sacrifices and the traditions that accompanied it, were completely earthly. And the fleshly mindset of the people meant estrangement from Jehovah, couple this with the corrupt leadership and a clear picture of false worship emerges; the visible parts of true worship had become objects of idolatry. The law of Moses had successfully exposed the sinfulness of God’s people and no amount of animal sacrifice would ever cover them. There was only one reason the Jewish system ever came into existence: to lead to the Christ. Despite the fact this temple was a legitimate part of true worship, it was a mere copy of the reality, the Jewish system had run its course; the temple with its priesthood was to be replaced with the Christian way - Jesus Christ the new King/High priest would present his own blood once for all time in the real heavenly temple.

When we examine the context of Jesus’ words above, we find a grand expose’ of the hypocrisy of Jewish leadership. The Jews felt secure in their system, they had come to rely on it and they had developed precious lifestyles that depended on that system of things. The temple, with its system was the focal point of their lives and history – a marvelous landmark worthy of praise. Also the Jews were a significant nation, a force to be reckoned with that had survived for 3000 years despite vicious attacks. And their temple and their system of worship had been installed by Jehovah himself, they felt untouchable. But they had forgotten Jehovah, the sins of the nation were mounting up and the haughty separatist clergy maintained the depravity to meet their own selfish desires. These factors helped create the idolatry of the visible organization. Evidently, even the apostles were affected by this influence as they proudly showed Jesus the marvelous architecture of the temple complex.

So, when Jesus replied with the shocking news that a stone would not be left upon a stone of this place, it became clear to the apostles 'this system of things' was going to end, and there would be no confusion about it.

TO BE CONTINUED...
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Re:From what do we flee? - 2004/12/02 08:57 Hey SoC looking forward to the rest!

Do you think the temple itself was "legitimate" despite the faithless actions of the leadership. Seems so given that it was installed by Jehovah. Even when the curtain was rent at Jesus' death, did the Christians still include some of the "system" components in their worship - e.g. association at the synagogue, which likely would have involved participation at the temple?

Yet also when the Christians fled, they no longer did so - by fleeing they completely exited the visible system - no going to the synagogues, no going to the temple.

This process may have taken place from 33-66 CE for some and then again from 66-70 CE. I suspect there may be some parallel today coming up for this second period.

Much love and spirit to all

ePig
Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. If anyone thinks he has acquired knowledge of something, he does not yet know it just as he ought to know it. But if anyone loves God, this one is known by him - 1 Cor 8:1-3
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