Is the Scapegoat Your Personal Savior? - 2005/12/10 10:33Should the Scapegoat Be Considered "Your Personal Savior"?
This is a very interesting question, and one that deserves a scriptural answer.
The question can be raised: Does the YORWW Congregation of believers (of which I am a part) accept a man, Donald C. Burney, as our PERSONAL SAVIOR.
The answer is a resounding NO!
Here is why.
As servants of Jehovah, we all want to be standing on solid ground where our very lives are concerned. We all know that Jehovah, as our creator, is also the Author of our Salvation. He ultimately is the one who determines whether we are worthy of continuing to enjoy His gift of life throughout eternity. The scriptures are very clear on this. I will share a few with you that will clarify my position on this matter.
Isaiah 43:11 tells us this: "I - I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior."
Thus this verse shows, Jehovah God is the ONLY TRUE SAVIOR of His people.
Above, I didn't quote verse 10 of Isaiah 43 because all Jehovah's Witnesses are very familiar with it, as it makes the very same point.
Also, 1Timothy 1:1 reiterates this point: "Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus under command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus, our hope." 1 Timothy 2:3, 4 adds: "This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, whose will it is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth." Titus 2:10 tells us: "Not committing theft, but exhibiting good fidelity to the full, so that they may adorn the teaching of our Savior, God, in all things." Titus 3:4 continues: "However, when the kindness and the love for man on the part of our Savior, God, was manifested." These verses are very clear; Jehovah, ultimately, is the Savior of His people as well as others.
Then too, Acts 28:28 reminds us of this: "Therefore let it be known to you that this, the means by which GOD SAVES has been sent out to the nations; they will certainly listen to it."
Just as the verse above says, God Saves....God is actually doing the saving...not man, not even Jesus.
You see, this is true because Jesus is only the "MEANS BY WHICH" Jehovah Saves...only the means.
Indeed, Jehovah takes it upon Himself to provide the "means by which" He will do the saving, whether using Jesus or some other person, if He Chooses.
Thus, in this sense, Jehovah is the True Savior of all, because He always, always provides the MEANS for the particular act of salvation itself. And this was evidently the viewpoint that first century christians also held, on this particular matter of who was their REAL SAVIOR in all things...God or Jesus, His Appointed Mediator of the New Covenant. -- See Titus 3:4.
But there is more, even back in ancient times when Jehovah God wrought salvation for the nation of Israel from Egypt, He chose to use a human to physically lead them although this person was clearly working under His direction and with His spirit. This person (Moses) became only the "means," the "means by which" God Chooses to Save. (Exodus 3:9, 10; Acts 28:28)
Similarly in the first century, Jehovah chose to use His only-begotten son, to deliver Israel from certain death because of their breaking His covenant. (Galatians 4:4)
Therefore today, God's Name People, Jehovah's witnesses also find themselves in much the same position that ancient Israel was in; they have broken His covenant and are in need of deliverance from certain destruction. This He has provided by means of an arrangement described in the Law Covenant, that was enacted on the Day of Atonement. This "means" of atonement is discussed in Leviticus 16:5-10, 20-22. I won't go into too much detail at this time because you can do research on you own. Bible prophecy reveals, God's Name People, ultimate will have to "join themselves" or "bond" themselves back to Jehovah God again (after being severely disciplined), by means of an additional "covenant" arrangement. The Bible refers to this as the Scapegoat Covenant. -- See Jeremiah 50:4, 5; Ezekiel 20:35-38; Lev. 16:10, 20
Here is a simple illustration to show exactly what I'm saying.
The bible tells us that Jesus is a god..."a god."
However, it also shows ...Jehovah is the True God...the Only True God. And that shows a big difference between the 2 "Gods," 2 "saviors", if you will.
Similarly we know, Jesus was a savior, even as Moses was a savior, sent by God...
but again, the bible makes it clear, Jehovah is The True Savior.
In other words, Acts 28:28 shows Jehovah has provided the actual "means," the "means' for saving His people today. And, in the first century this "means by which" they were "saved," proved to be Jesus Christ as mediator of the Christian Covenant. And before that, this "means" to save proved to be Moses, the mediator of the Mosaic Law Covenant, given to ancient Israel.
Based upon the above information, I view Jehovah God as my Personal Savior and NOT Donald C. Burney. I see this man, as the "means by which" God's Saves...that and only that. I see this man as the Scapegoat provision that God is using to establish Divine Law today, namely the Scapegoat Covenant. - Lev. 16:10; Isaiah 42:6; Isaiah 49:8
Bejay
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savvy
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Re:Is the Scapegoat Your Personal Savior? - 2005/12/10 19:49Bejay,
I think that any sound christian would agree that it is Jehovah who is the true Savior. That is a scriptural truth, as Paul uses the term about six times in 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy and Titus, not to mention the reference with Isaiah.
However, trying to mix that into the "scapegoat covenant" teaching will not make the scapegoat covenant come true. You have presented a half-truth/half-lie scenario.
Please, for the sake of your salvation, return to Jehovah.
Yours in Christ,
Savvy
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ablebodiedman
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This is my personal Savior - 2005/12/12 06:54Bejay2012 wrote:
In other words, Acts 28:28 shows Jehovah has provided the actual "means," the "means' for saving His people today. And, in the first century this "means by which" they were "saved," proved to be Jesus Christ as mediator of the Christian Covenant. And before that, this "means" to save proved to be Moses, the mediator of the Mosaic Law Covenant, given to ancient Israel.
Jehovah has provided the means by which we can be saved:
Acts 4
8 Then Peter, filled with holy spirit, said to them:
“Rulers of the people and older men, 9 if we are this day being examined, on the basis of a good deed to an ailing man, as to by whom this man has been made well, 10 let it be known to all of YOU and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ the Naz·a·rene´, whom YOU impaled but whom God raised up from the dead, by this one does this man stand here sound in front of YOU. 11 This is ‘the stone that was treated by YOU builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’ 12 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”
there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved
Hebrews 13
8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, and forever.
9 Do not be carried away with various and strange teachings; for it is fine for the heart to be given firmness by undeserved kindness, not by eatables, by which those who occupy themselves with them have not been benefited.
regards
ablebodiedman
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