"Oholah" & "Oholibah" - Wicked Prostitute "Sisters" Before Jehovah (Ezekiel chapter 23) Part 2
Yes, as mentioned earlier, the name "Oholah" means "My Tent," and the name "Oholibah" means "My Tent Is In Her." And of course, the latter's name, yes well pictures the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses since "in her" there resides, yes, the True Tent or Temple of God's Name People, known as the "Male Child" of Revelation 12:5. Yes, many years ago, it was prophesied by the prophet Ezekiel, that this organization, the Jehovah's Witnesses themselves, would become a "prostitute" organization, under the leadership of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. And what follows, then become a situation of "community guilt" upon all, yes all Jehovah's Witnesses, because of Revelation 18:4, and what it teaches us.
Yes, here is what Revelation 18:4 said:
"And I heard another voice out of heaven say: Get out of her, my people [as in Israel, being his people] if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues."
Yes, this verse shows that Jehovah's Witnesses, yes today, can indeed actually "share" in the wicked antics of their religious leaders, simply by being a part of the religious organization that reproaches God's Personal Name. This verse now points at Jehovah's Witnesses themselves, the ones most vocal about such a verse itself in their field ministry. The people who quoted Revelation 18:4, more than any religious organization upon earth. Yes, all Jehovah's Witnesses are facing this "judgment" from the mouth of Jehovah himself, exactly as we all taught at one time or another as even former Watchtower adherents, yes we taught other religious people, going from door-to-door about this scripture, and the "community guilt" implied by it. There can be no question we Jehovah's Witnesses, former or current, told people we preached to in no uncertain terms, that if they didn't leave their wicked religious organizations, their fornicating, prostituting religions like the Catholics, the Baptists, the Presbyterians, the Methodists, and the wicked Mormons and all other religions - yes, all Jehovah's Witnesses, former or current, yes even non baptized publishers within the JW Organization and I myself, (the writer of this material) all of us, at one time, yes taught that if those people of the churches of Christendom, or even those who were members of so-called "Babylon the Great," the world empire of all false religion, the House of Satan as it were, we taught that if they didn't leave those filthy religions, those prostitute religions, then they would be liable to Jehovah's direct for punishment, according to Revelation 18:4. And we explained this by saying this was called: "COMMUNITY GUILTY" or "guilt by association." We said it was like being an "accessory to the crime," in Jehovah's eyes. Yes, this is what Jehovah's Witnesses taught. Which means, all 6 million Jehovah's Witnesses strong, are, before God, yes accessories to the "antics" and wicked works of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses...no question about it!
So now, how can we escape guilt!
Yes, now Jehovah's Witnesses must play the part of "hypocrites" before all of the religions of the world, now. Jehovah's Witnesses are now, "put on this spot," because of the wicked antics of the Watchtower Society and its Governing Body. Yes, Jehovah Witnesses must now say: "...WE ARE NOT GUILTY OF THIS CRIME OF APOSTASY BEFORE JEHOVAH, no, we are completely innocent!"
Ahhhhh, yes.
To play the hypocrite, now! Yes, to do this before the Heavens and Company (Angels) Above...
But, as we all remember, oh so well, isn't it true that we as Jehovah's Witnesses taught, publicly to people of the world, in our so-called "field ministry," that people who stayed with the Churches of Christendom, and continued to support their wicked leaders, their wicked ministers who taught them wrong, and lied to them - didn't we say, that those people WOULD BE DESTROYED, those parishners, who continued to give outward support, by keeping their membership there, in those church organizations? Didn't we actually say this, teach this, yes, preach this from the public platforms at our larger assemblies. Did not we teach such a thing? We taught "Community Guilt" and we used Revelation 18:4 as our "proof-text," did we not?
Yes, and didn't we further teach that Jesus would reject all forms of "hypocrisy," as he condemned in his day, those who tried to "set aside the commandment of God." Those, who as it were, "worshipped in vain" before their God, yes those who followed those religious leaders who practiced things displeasing to Jehovah, and those things Jesus considered as: spiritual "leaven" in Jehovah's sight. Which means of course, a "little leaven ferments the whole lump" of the religion itself, in this case, namely the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization, some 6 million strong? - See Mark 7:7-9; Luke 12:1; Galatians 5:7-9.
Well, guess what? Now, all Jehovah's Witnesses, on the basis of Revelation 18:4, are now faced with "Community Guilt," the same kind that is spoken of in Revelation 18:4. (Compare Leviticus 4:3) Yes, the religious leaders of the Jehovah's Witnesses, namely the Governing Body, have now "sinned" before God. They have now become a "prostitute", fornicating brand of filthy spiritual leaders before God Almighty. So, what now? .... Do you imagine that Jehovah God will change his lofty requirements, simple to appease, the lofty-minded, vigorous preaching Jehovah's Witnesses, today? The ones who now, have blatantly "acted wickedly toward [God's] holy covenant," openly in front of all, including Satan the Devil, yes the entire planet of mankind! -- Daniel 11:30; Malachi 3:6
Ahhhhhh, not so, actually!
And yet, some Jehovah's Witnesses actually feel because they are God's Name People, yes, they say that they are "The Temple of Jehovah, the Temple of Jehovah, The Temple of Jehovah, we are..." Oh yes, this filthy spiritual fornication of the Watchtower Society itself, many, many active Jehovah's Witnesses hope that this most horrendous "act" on the Governing Body's part, will not be viewed by Jehovah God, as being a true "covenant-breaker" itself, as foretold in bible prophecy itself. (See Malachi 2:8, 9; Jeremiah 7:4) Yes, they feel that surely, surely, "Jehovah will not dump" us, on account of what the Watchtower Society Headquarters Staff did, would he? But, ah yes, Jehovah answers rather clearly:
"I will do also to the house upon which my name has been called, in which you are trusting, and to the place that I gave to you and to your forefathers, just as I did to Shiloh. And I will throw you out from before my face, just as I threw out all your brothers, the whole offspring of Ephraim". - Jeremiah 7:14, 15
Yes, it seem wicked, filthy Jehovah's Witnesses as a whole, simply want to uphold their filthy "Temple" arrangement, the filthy arrangement of their so-called "anointed" ones. But as mentioned above, prophetically speaking, Jehovah has said,
"...they must be thrown out before his face..."
Yes, Almighty God has said, has shown indeed, thru the messages of the "prophets" of old, that Jehovah's Witnesses, as a whole, yes, must be disfellowshipped, from before His Righteous Face! Why? Well, because they will not, act to "correct" the wrongdoer, namely in this case, the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses themselves -- that's why!
Therefore, without a doubt, the WTS and Jehovah's Witnesses, all are guilty before Jehovah now, of committing spiritual fornication. Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses, as an organization, yes pictures modern-day spiritual "Oholibah", the newly established "prostitute" woman, who is the true wicked "sister" to "Oholah", the wicked churches of Christendom.
"Community Guilt" Explained - 2006/01/18 12:02The Prophet Daniel and the Question of "Community Guilt"
Considering the secret UN-NGO Situation that the Governing Body was a part for some 10 years (1991 thru 2001), we must ask ourselves this most important question: Has James 4:4 truly been observed or has it been violated on the part of the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses, thus leading to judgment for the whole organization?
Remember,
"friendship with the world is enmity with God."
These are questions you need to ask yourself since you are involved as one of 6 million Jehovah's Witnesses scattered in better than 95,000 congregations earth wide. As you recall, the prophet Daniel found himself in a similar situation, though it was no fault of his own. He was himself deported to Babylon to live as a slave for the 'sins' of the nation's leaders. What would he do in such a difficult situation? Let's notice his attitude and see if it might be of some assistance to us today.
DANIEL 9:1-11 Verse by Verse Commentary
Verses 1-5: "In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus of the seed of the Medes, who had been made king over the kingdom of the Chaldeans; in the first year of his reigning I myself, Daniel, discerned by the books the number of the years concerning which the word of Jehovah had occurred to Jeremiah the prophet, for fulfilling the devastations of Jerusalem, [namely,] seventy years. And I proceeded to set my face to Jehovah the [true] God, the great One and the fear-inspiring One, keeping the covenant and the loving-kindness to those loving him and to those keeping his commandments, we have sinned and done wrong and acted wickedly and rebelled; and there has been a turning aside from your commandments and from your judicial decisions."
Daniel studiously discerned the real plight of God's people by "books" or writings of Jeremiah. Similarly, we must return to the Bible for true guidance in these critical times. It is quite clear that Jehovah's people have gotten away from the Bible and His Law. Therefore, how many years have you been "in the truth," as Jehovah's Witnesses say, 5, 10, 20 years? Then ask yourself one important question:
Have you personally read the Bible through, in its entirety? Or have you been totally preoccupied with reading your latest Watchtower, Awake!, Yearbook, Revelation - Grand Climax book, Examining the Scriptures Daily (with only one verse under consideration per day), your Kingdom Ministry, Theocratic School Guidebook, and All Scriptures Inspired book, etc., etc., etc.? Yes, are you are busy, busy, busy reading these — and then, if you have time for it, and only then, will you sit down and read the Bible, God's Word? In other words, does your Bible reading come after you have read all your Watch Tower Society publications? Is that the way you acquaint yourself with the Word of God — yes, by reading more Watchtower magazines, books, etc. and leaving His Word to whatever time you have left? If you are doing this, then why does the Bible, God's Word, plainly say to all of His people: 'read God's Word daily, in an undertone?' Have you therefore, made God's Word, your principle and primary textbook, before all other books and publications? Have you??? — See Ecclesiastes 12:12; Joshua 1:8; Acts 17:11.
Furthermore, do you, as one of Jehovah's witnesses, find yourself more conversant about what is in the latest Watchtower or Awake! magazine than what is in the Bible? And, are your children reading the book My Book of Bible Stories as a short-cut to reading the Bible itself? And parents, are your children more familiar with the contents of the Bible than you, because of your lack of reading it either? In other words, are you 'in the dark' because you have 'left Jehovah' by not acquainting yourself with His Law? Think about it! We have to admit that we ourselves are to blame, because any blame or delinquency in this matter of failing to read the Bible would have to be on our part — right? Think about it. — See Psalms 119:97-100.
As you may have already noticed, Daniel himself said the words, "WE (including himself) HAVE SINNED," not because he was directly guilty of any wrong. (See Daniel 9:5, 11.) No, but we realize the prophet said these words because he knew he SHARED IN community guilt (or "guilt by association") by being a part of the Jewish nation. Yes, the prophet Daniel could see the BIG PICTURE -- yes, Daniel actually believed in "Community Guilt" as taught in God's Holy Word, which explains why he said:
"And ALL THOSE OF ISRAEL have overstepped your law, and there has been a turning aside by not obeying your voice, so that you poured out upon us the curse and the sworn oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of the true God, for WE HAVE SINNED against Him." -- Daniel 9:11
Did you notice above (as shown in verse 5 also), Daniel makes the clear admission that "all those of Israel" had to share in the sins of their leadership. Yes, Daniel 9:8-10 makes clear the leadership was involved in this great sinning of the nation, which brought great punishment upon all the nation. (See also Leviticus 4:3.) Therefore, Daniel even says that he himself is to be included in this "sinning," as he says: "...WE have sinned."
Therefore, today, all Jehovah's witnesses themselves likewise share in community guilt either by direct contribution or indirect moral support and approval, and therefore must ask for forgiveness concerning this horrible, abhorrent thing, namely the UN-NGO Secret Sin of the Governing Body. Which means, in our prayers, we should confess our sin as a nation or international brotherhood that has transgressed Jehovah's law. We must pray also for the willing repentance and "escape" of others still enslaved to this apostate-headed organization. — See Isaiah 2:5, 6; 10:6.
Verse 6: "And we have not listened to your servants the prophets, who have spoken in your name to our kings, our princes and our forefathers and to all the people of the land."
God's people have not listened to his prophetic word. As the Bible states in its record for our times, the Israelite leaders did not listen to the prophets. Daniel humbly acknowledges this fact. Can we acknowledge that those taking the lead among us have done the same? Someone today is pointing out the wrongs committed by God's people. These ones have been appointed by Jehovah to do this very important work! ... Will we display true humility, acknowledge our sin before Jehovah, and convert or 'turn around so as to have our sins blotted out?' Each one must search himself. — See 1 Corinthians 10:11; Acts 3:19.
Verses 7 & 8: "To you, O Jehovah, there belongs the righteousness, but to us the shame of face as at this day, to the men of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to all those of Israel, those nearby and those far away in all the lands to which you dispersed them because of their unfaithfulness with which they acted against you. O Jehovah, to us belongs the shame of face, to our kings, to our princes, and to our forefathers, because we have sinned against you."
We should be ashamed for what has been done. Great reproach has been brought upon Jehovah's name. Unfaithfulness involves the leaders and the people. Are we ashamed? Are we disturbed about this matter of, namely, the secret sin of the Governing Body the UN-NGO situation? We should be...yes, we should all feel MOST "humiliated," as bible prophecy indicates! -- See Ezekiel 43:10, 11.
Verses 9-11: "To Jehovah our God belong the mercies and the acts of forgiveness, for we have rebelled against him. And we have not obeyed the voice of Jehovah our God by walking in his laws that he set before us by the hand of his servants the prophets. And all those of Israel have overstepped your law, and there has been a turning aside by not obeying your voice, so that you poured out upon us the curse and the sworn oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of the [true] God, for we have sinned against Him."
When Israel transgressed the Mosaic Law, they brought "curses" or "sworn oaths" upon themselves. Transgression of the new covenant brings even more severe consequences. — Please compare Deuteronomy chapter 28 with Hebrews 10:28-31.
The punishment for violation of the Mosaic Law Covenant is death...everlasting death, everlasting death if the Israelite proved to be incorrigibly wicked. (See Matthew 3:12) Similarly, the punishment for violation of the New Law Covenant is death in Gehenna "Lake of Fire — Second Death — Everlasting Destruction", where no resurrection is possible. Therefore, all Christians (members of the christian covenant) then must consider these factors very carefully. (1 Corinthians 10:14; James 4:4) We must tolerate no rivalry toward Jehovah's worship! (Numbers 25:6-13) He is a God exacting EXCLUSIVE DEVOTION. As Exodus 34:14 says: "For you must not prostrate yourself to another god, because Jehovah, whose name is Jealous, he is a jealous God." This includes the sharing of worship with even His beloved son Jesus. (Isaiah 42:8) Most certainly it would also include the sharing of the UN-NGO Sin with the leading members of the organization, the Governing Body, and associates of the Watch Tower Society.
It might seem incredible — too incredible — that Jehovah's Witnesses could be guilty of 'sharing in the sins' of the Governing Body and the Watch Tower Society, because, if this is true, it would certainly cause Jehovah to 'abandon' His people. (John 8:29) However, if we were to read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, what overall sin did Satan repeatedly thrust before God's people? Wasn't it idolatry? Isn't this the whole aim of Satan the Devil — even going to the point of attempting to stumble Jesus with this grievous transgression? Thus, Jehovah's Witnesses are not immune to Satan's attacks in the areas of idolatry and creature worship...are they? — Luke 4:6-8.
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN APOSTASY! Today God's Name People are faced with a very difficult situation, similar to the one faced by ancient Israel of times past. Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses of our modern times are faced with National Apostasy! And, as we recall in times of National Apostasy of the past in Ancient Israel, Jehovah dutifully would without a doubt, "ABANDON" the House of Israel if they proved to be totally unrepentant about this grave sin when brought to their attention. Special National Atonement was necessary in all such cases. -- See Leviticus 4:1-21; Matthew 23:38.
In fact, in all such cases, God's Word indicates that if the nation of Israel would not repent of its wicked ways, JEHOVAH GOD HIMSELF, WOULD BE FORCED TO GO TO THE WILDERNESS, and distance Himself, far away from His Name People and the land of His people!
Indeed, Deuteronomy 23:14 clearly says,
"For Jehovah your God is walking about WITHIN YOUR CAMP to deliver you and to abandon your enemies to you; and your camp must prove to be holy, that he may see nothing indecent in you and certainly turn away from accompanying you."
Also, Numbers 35:34 says for our benefit,
"And you must not defile the land in which you are dwelling, in the midst of which I am residing; for I Jehovah am residing in the midst of the sons of Israel."
And so for these reasons stated above, Jehovah Himself, John the Baptist, as well as all repentant members of the nation of Israel, would have to LEAVE THE "APOSTATE NATION" OF ISRAEL and humbly be willing to go out into the "wilderness," where appropriately they could receive Divine Instruction from Jehovah, in the wilderness, where God would now reside, far away from His Name People. (John 1:6; Isaiah 10:6) Therefore, anyone from the nation of Israel, who was truly repentant, and who wished to "inquire of Jehovah" from that point on, must be willing to GO TO THE WILDERNESS, since God Himself had left the land, and would no longer agree to be a "resident" or "dweller" in this now "polluted," apostate land of God's Name People. This situation became advisable during the difficult times of the prophet "Elijah" as well as the prophet "John the Baptist," who both took up residence in the "wilderness," away from God's Name People for a specific period of time. -- See 1 Kings 17:2-6; 1 Kings 19:4, 15; Matthew 3:1-6
Indeed, Ezekiel 20:35-38 prophetically speaks of God's future "judgment" or discipline upon His Name People because of gross wickedness, and their future trek to the "wilderness," where Godly "Judgment" would be carried out upon them. The prophet Ezekiel was told in ancient times about our day,
"And I WILL BRING YOU INTO THE WILDERNESS OF THE PEOPLES and put myself on judgment with you there face to face. Just as I put myself on judgment with your forefathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I shall put myself on judgment with you, is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. And I will make you pass under the rod and bring you into the bond of the covenant. And I will clean out from you the revolters and the transgressors against me, for out of the land of their alien residence I shall bring them forth, but onto the soil of Israel they will not come; and you people will have to know that I am Jehovah."
Therefore, simply put, God's Name People of our time, Jehovah's Witnesses, have indeed, "polluted" God's land by wickedly engaging in idolatry, injustice and bloodshed, and thus, are presently in line for the Godly Judgment upon themselves, as shown above. -- Jeremiah 7:4, 8-15
In this regard, we remember Jesus himself knew Jehovah would inevitably, "abandon" apostate Jerusalem because of its wickedness, and so never personally risked the chance of being considered unfaithful to Jehovah and thus being himself "abandoned" by God. (John 8:29) Thus we can say, Jesus himself, set the example for us today, to "turn away from the ungodly," when he directed his disciples to LEAVE APOSTATE JERUSALEM. -- See Matthew 23:38; Hebrews 13:13, 14; 2 Timothy 3:5; Revelation 3:12
Ezekiel accurately predicts the true situation facing us today. It predicts that God's people would be guilty of the following as mentioned at Ezekiel 43:7-9:
"And He went on to say to me:
"Son of man, [this is] the place of my throne and the place of the soles of my feet, where I shall reside in the midst of the sons of Israel to time indefinite; and no more will they, the house of Israel, defile my holy name, they and their kings, by their fornication and by the carcasses of their kings at their death, by their putting their threshold with my threshold and their doorpost beside my doorpost, with the wall between me and them. And they defiled my holy name by their detestable things that they did, so that I went exterminating them in my anger. Now let them remove their fornication and the carcasses of their kings far from me, and I shall certainly reside in the midst of them to time indefinite."
Yes, have we been guilty of putting the Watch Tower Society's "doorpost" and "threshold" alongside Jehovah's "doorpost" or "threshold" in His temple? Have we? Have we willingly placed the Watch Tower Society's publications and their leading men on equal footing with Jehovah's position as God -- when we excuse them of this heinous crime, namely the UN-NGO Secret Liaison of the years of 1991 thru 2001? Yes, have we literally made a "god" out of the Governing Body...yes, willingly making the Governing Body become, yes, the infamous "man of lawlessness"? Think about it. — See 2 Thessalonians 2:3, 4.
Explanation of Community Guilt! - 2006/01/18 14:44polemotheos wrote: Mary I do not understand why you keep spaming us here.
I welcome your posts if you can free yourself from mental thraldom long enough to post something that comes from your own heart.
Mary share with me something that you know that your prophet does not know.
Share with me where you disagree with him.
Share with me where you can use your own brain and type your own words.
That would be amazing to see.
I have seen enough of your copy paste thank you very much.
Hello polemotheos,
Since you are having a hard time digesting the article on "Community Guilt," I would only be too happy to converse with you.
I am going to assume that you as a JW, went out in service...in the door to door preaching work. I hope I am correct and am not making an arss out of my self.
In the door to door work, JW's preach and teach that everyone [worldly people] should FLEE FROM BABYLON THE GREAT!!! That all those false religions are BTG.
WHY? Duh...because you will share in "her sins." Right?!?
And this "sharing in her sins" is "Community Guilt."
OH, oh....I bet you, such a smart person too, can guess my next question...
Why don't JW's practice what they preach??? The WTS and GB have sinned by becoming a NGO with the United Nations. They became "part of the world" as in James 4:4, which I am sure you are well aware of. So why does it look like a DOUBLE STANDARD here? Do you think JW's will share in the GB's sins???
Now to me, this sounds like a paradigm. What I see, is that most JW's have the attitude of a Pharisee, which is aptly described by Jesus when he said to "do what they say but don't do what they do." -Matt. 23:3 I thought Daniel 9:1-9 said it pretty well also not to mention Leviticus 4:3. But you would have to actually look them up to see. LOL!
But then instead of whinning...why don't you put your BIBLE WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS??? Opps, I hope I did not offend you.
I would enjoy some bible discussion with you. And how about using the subject at hand..."COMMUNITY GUILT." Or don't you think JW's share any "Community Guilt" as a result of the GB sin? Because if there is "Community Guilt" then you would have to look at maybe, just maybe the Christian Covenant has been broken. Or maybe you feel confident just standing on your own righteousness before Jehovah God, do you?
But I will understand if you cannot go there as it may not be your expertise. Or maybe you don't think being a NGO is a big enough deal to Jehovah God? Either way...I will look forward to it.
Oh yes...you asked if I disagree with Donald C. Burney. I agree with his teachings but then he likes the color orange and I like purple, lol.
Re:Explanation of Community Guilt! - 2006/01/18 15:41Since you are having a hard time digesting the article on "Community Guilt," I would only be too happy to converse with you. It's not about digestability, it's about spaming and mental thraldom. I am concerned that you have little individuality left. Possibly your experience with the Watchtower removed your individuality and following another god seems to fit for you.
Oh yes...you asked if I disagree with Donald C. Burney. I agree with his teachings but then he likes the color orange and I like purple, lol. Wow, that is major. You have different favorite colors. That is a big step...
But I will understand if you cannot go there as it may not be your expertise. Speculation is not my expertise.
Or maybe you feel confident just standing on your own righteousness before Jehovah God, do you? O, I need another crutch do I?
Help me understand this crutch of yours.
Does all truth come from or through Donald C. Burney? Or is it only a special kind of speculative truth that comes from him?
And what happens if I teach something that he has not taught? Is your crutch like the Watchtower were anyone that teaches anything not found in it's writings is considered apostate?
If not, and I teach truth not from Donald C. Burney, and your crutch has no ability to disagree or disprove what I teach then why do I need him as a crutch?
Re:Explanation of Community Guilt! - 2006/01/18 16:59polemotheos:
I thought a bible discussion was what you wanted...but I was wrong.
You would rather just attack me personally. This usually happens when one feels insecure about their ability to defend themselves in an area where they are lacking in. In this case that area must be the bible. By your picture, I see you have found your blinkie...so you should feel better now.
Well, I hope you have a nice time at the tribulation during Jehovah's Great Day.
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