Fear - 2005/11/17 18:56Hello brothers and sisters,
Today I was speaking to a sister and during the conversation we discused;
(1) the spirits communication to us
(2) if I would be fearful if someone threatened me with a gun
Intrestingly enough I can now say I have had such an experience this very same night;
Latter this evening I was walking to my aunts house. On the way I see four young men walk in such a way so as to intersect me... So I started to slow down and then they started to cross the street in the direction I was going... I told one of them "hello" and he pulled out a gun and said "what did you say" so I stoped walking and he continued down the street in the direction I was originally going.
Stoping there at the corner of the intersection I thought for a moment and figured I might as well head back to the house I had left from just around the corner.
After crossing the street and going a little ways... without hearing anything... the spirit told me "here he comes!"... so I turned around right away... and there he was runing at me with his gun drawn... he came so close I could have easily grabbed the gun from his hands... (he probably thought I would run... or show some sort of febelness..)
He then asked for all my money. I told him I do not have any money. (I only had my atm card). Then he asked for me to empty all my pockets. In which case I pulled out my keys and tassed them in my hand and them put them back in my pocket. (I didn't really obey him)
Then he tells me he is going to shoot me in the leg if I ever say "hi" to him again on this block.... then he left...
So I continue my journey back to the house I had originally left from. I took the time to meditate on what had just happened... I was trying to see what I could have done better... Had I grabbed the gun from his hands I could have helped him by talking to him while we were waiting for the police to show up.... I figured that he is not an outright wicked person because he did not aim the gun at my chest or in my face but only at my legs. Also because he came so close to me in a weak stance it suggested that his subconcious at least wanted help almost asking me to take the gun from him which I believe I could have done.
After all this praying to Jehovah... I figured I would walk down the same street and go to my aunts house anyway... Which I did. And sure enough I walked right past them.... I had my hands in my pocket because it was cold. But they probably thought I was packing... An idea I had not thought of until after the fact. When they recongnized it was me one of them ran to a garbage can and pulled out the gun.... and I just walked past them. After I went past there house they all went inside...
I was given three gifts from Jehovah tonight;
(1) I got to hear the spirit
(2) I got to see if I fear death or serious injury
(3) I got to see if I can forgive someone that sought my harm
What a blessing. If any of you could give a prayer for this young man that would be great. If I find were he lives I will of course make sure the authorities are contacted.
Re:Fear - 2005/11/17 19:39The conversation between the sister and I regarding whether or not I would be fearful if I was threatened with a gun came from the fact that I was encouraging her to die... in which case if you are already dead to self you have no fear of death at all. Tonight I have proven this...
She has been suffering from mightmares and fear of harmaggedon...
I was telling her if I am found to be a wicked person I would be glad to die... so that mankind would not have to continue to suffer because of me.
The bible clearly teaches that we die to self... in baptism...
I have not met any brothers or sisters that share these persectives with me...
To my understanding All of them FEAR death... they fear dying at harmeggedon... they fear Jehovah and not doing enough for him.. etc.
(1 John 4:18) "There is no fear in love, but perfect love throws fear outside, because fear exercises a restraint. Indeed, he that is under fear has not been made perfect in love."
We must worship Jehovah because we love him... not because we fear death.
Fear is the path to the dark side.... Satan has fear.... He fears death... He is a coward and so are all those that follow his teachings..
He has six teachings;
1. I am what I have, my possessions define me.
2. I am what I do, my achievements define me.
3. I am what others think of me, my reputation defines me.
4. I am separate from everyone, my body defines me as alone.
5. I am separate from all that is missing in my life, my life space is disconnected from my desires.
6. I am separate from God, my life depends on God's assessment of my worthiness.
Re:Fear - 2005/11/17 23:47Scary incident there. Glad u didn't get harmed.
Fear of harm and death is totally natural. Even Jesus did not want to die. He prayed all night and his sweat poured off him like blood. He prayed to his Father for the cup he had to drink (inglorious, painful death) to pass from him, if at all possible. Jesus understands how painful and terrible death is. His spirit groaned when he heard that Lazarus had died and he witnessed the grief of those around him. Death is not an illusion or an entry-way to another realm, as taught by Babylonish religion. Death is a real enemy, the last enemy. God hates human death and since we are in our Father's divine image, we also hate it. We value and cherish life, but we know that death is only temporary and we do not grieve as those of the nations do, for those who have did are merely sleeping. Thank you Jehovah and Jesus for giving us the resurrection hope.
It is sad that this sister is tormented by fear of death and Armageddon. Unfortunately the Watchtower Society's continued emphasis on a nightmarish Armageddon can create an unhealthy obsession in some. Fear is the greatest weapon to manipulate people and keep them in mental bondage.
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Melancholymuse
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Re:Fear - 2005/11/18 00:27Scary indeed!
Reminds me of an incident that happened to me almost twenty years ago: I was walking down the street, it was around 8:00 at night, and it was dark that time of year. The only thing I was carrying was a can of powdered cleanser for my bathroom. I was the only one on the street, when I noticed a scruffy man walking behind me. So I crossed the street. Then so did he. My inner alarms went off, so I crossed back over to the other side, and then so did he. But then I got angry -- how DARE he try to intimidate me like that! I prayed to Jehovah to protect me, and then as I continued walking I took out the powdered cleanser, opened it, and kept walking as I turned and looked the guy square in the eye for a steady couple of seconds. (I would have thrown it in his face if he got too close). Apparently the guy figured I wasn't that easily intimidated (and apparently he didn have a gun either - LOL) and he changed his direction.
Not quite as rough as what you went through, Mars, but scary/maddening just the same.
I'm glad you came out of it safe, praise Jah!
Tami
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kitty
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Re:Fear - 2005/11/18 02:02Wuji, That is the most beautiful testimony of love from Jehovah and Jesus to us mere humans that I have read. I am haunted of the angony that Jesus went though every time I think of His death, and the horror that His mother suffered. Kitty
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ablebodiedman
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Re:Fear - 2005/11/18 02:57Polemotheos,
If you have read the letter and understand the present issue that is before all of Jehovah's Witnesses you will have at least made a stand in your heart for where your loyalties truly are.
Every Jehovah's Witness needs to determine and manifest their true loyalty.
Are they in union with:
1/ The Governing Body who undermined Jesus Christs baptismal Law?
or
2/ With Jesus Christ who commanded that the baptismal law should be observed?
I have found since my own loyalty has been manifested here on this forum as well as inside a letter sent to the Governing body and also to each and every member of my hometown congregation that, the thing I am most afraid of now is making a mistake.
Now is the time I need to endure.
If I were to die now I would no longer have to worry about making a mistake.
The thing I am now most afraid of is me.
In this situation death seems more like a safeguard.
The scripture at Revelation 14:13 supports this.
Revelation 14:13
13 And I heard a voice out of heaven say: “Write: Happy are the dead who die in union with [the] Lord from this time onward. Yes, says the spirit, let them rest from their labors, for the things they did go right with them.”
regards
ablebodiedman
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