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Re:The Israel of God - 2005/04/21 11:33 At Mat 21:43, Jesus told the Jews: "This is why I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits."

If the kingdom of God was taken away from the nation of Israel and given to another nation, what nation would that be? Could it have been given to a spiritual nation comprised of 144k spirit annointed individuals who reside in or previously resided in the WTBS despite the evident corruption and apostasy? peace
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Re:The Israel of God - 2005/04/21 11:49 Dodger wrote:
At Mat 21:43, Jesus told the Jews: "This is why I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits."

If the kingdom of God was taken away from the nation of Israel and given to another nation, what nation would that be? Could it have been given to a spiritual nation comprised of 144k spirit annointed individuals?

Yes

who reside in or previously resided in the WTBS despite the evident corruption and apostasy?

Jehovah's discision is entirely independent of some corporation.

Post edited by: polemotheos, at: 2005/04/21 11:50
Your Peace, Surrender, In You,
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Re:The Israel of God - 2005/04/21 16:47 Dodger wrote:
At Mat 21:43, Jesus told the Jews: "This is why I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits."

If the kingdom of God was taken away from the nation of Israel and given to another nation, what nation would that be? Could it have been given to a spiritual nation comprised of 144k spirit annointed individuals who reside in or previously resided in the WTBS despite the evident corruption and apostasy? peace


Hello,

Jesus was speaking about the chief priests and pharisees. It doesn't say he was speaking to the whole nation of Israel. In fact, just two scriptures down from the one you quoted it states, "45When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard Jesus' parables, they knew he was talking about them. 46They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that he was a prophet." It doesn't say the chief priests knew He was talking about the whole nation of Israel. It says they knew He was talking about them. And that they were to afraid to say anything because there was a crowd of Jews around that believed He was a prophet. Jesus never nullified the promises towards Israel. Prophets confirmed the word of Jehovah. They didn't nullify it.

Christian Love,
Dina

Post edited by: Dxsharpe, at: 2005/04/21 16:47
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Re:The Israel of God - 2005/04/22 05:50 So when it says; "the kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation"

Jesus ment another nation of Jews. Makes me wonder why so many pharisees became christains.

Ok I just wok up and dont have anything intelligable to say. haha

Post edited by: polemotheos, at: 2005/04/22 05:52
Your Peace, Surrender, In You,
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Re:The Israel of God - 2005/04/22 16:09 Hi,
The chief priests and pharisees represented the nation of Israel at the time. So He said it would be taken away from them and given to a nation producing its fruits. It doesn't say another nation of Jews. Remember were talking about a new covenant here also, not the changing of one government to another. So who or what was that other nation? peace
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Re:The Israel of God - 2005/04/22 16:19 Maybe I should just ask this. Is it reasonable to conclude that Jehovah would choose his spirit annointed ones from any place in the world or would it be more logical for us to assume that he would choose those with a heavenly calling from one source of people who may be more inline with his teachings? Peace, Dodger
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