Drinking with the drunkards. - 2006/04/04 11:03Matthew 24
48 “But if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ 49 and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.
So who are these drunkards?
and what does it mean to drink with them?
There are some drunkards mentioned elsewhere in the bible:
Isaiah 28
1 Woe to the eminent crown of the drunkards of E´phra·im, and the fading blossom of its decoration of beauty that is upon the head of the fertile valley of those overpowered by wine!
It is interesting to note that these drunkards have an eminent crown and so they must have more importance than most. In fact if they have a crown they are most likely kings.
This is Isaiah writing though and so should he be referring to his contemporaries?
A little further on in the scripture he mentions something which shows that he is actually referring to a time after Jesus Christ is ressurected.
Isaiah 28
16 therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Here I am laying as a foundation in Zion a stone, a tried stone, the precious corner of a sure foundation. No one exercising faith will get panicky.
Even a mediocre bible student should recognize that the precious corner of a sure foundation is a reference to Jesus Christ. Notice in the verse above however, that Isaiah is quoting Jehovah as saying this will be "a tried stone". Jesus passed his trial when he was manifested on the earth as a man and was then resurrected to his place in heaven.
Carefull contemplation should help us realize that the drunkard kings being referenced at the start of the chapter are kings in existance after Jesus Christ's ressurection.
Could they be pagan Kings or presidents and priministers of countries or nations?
Not according to Isaiah:
Isaiah 28
14 Therefore hear the word of Jehovah, YOU braggarts, YOU rulers of this people who are in Jerusalem:
Isaiah makes it very clear that these are kings (rulers) of God's people living in a time period after Jesus Christs ressurection. Could he have been taling about 1st Century Christians and or Apostles?
Isaiah also mentions that they have "concealed themselves in falsehood" (a lie) and also made a "covenant with death".
Isaiah 28
15 Because YOU men have said: “We have concluded a covenant with Death; and with She´ol we have effected a vision; the overflowing flash flood, in case it should pass through, will not come to us, for we have made a lie our refuge and in falsehood we have concealed ourselves”;
Did the 1st Century Christians conceal themselves in a lie or make a covenant with death?
Nothing like that is recorded in the bible or in 1st Century history so could it be later day 21st Century Christians?
To better understand the lie and the covenant with death please read and understand the following article which can be found on this same website at the following link: (Make certain you come back here)
The annointed kings of God's people have made a covenant with death and are concealed in a lie. How did this happen and why does Jehovah allow his people to continue operating in such an erroneous way?
The Apostle Paul answers the question:
2nd Thessalonians 2
9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
Satan had a motive for sowing weeds in amoung the wheat.
Did you think that Satans motive might be for a reason more benevolent than this?
Satan has almost acheived every motive for which he sowed those weeds.
It will only be a small remnant of anointed who recognise this:
This is revealed in the continuation of the verses in 2 Thessalonians above:
13 However, we are obligated to thank God always for YOU, brothers loved by Jehovah, because God selected YOU from [the] beginning for salvation by sanctifying YOU with spirit and by YOUR faith in the truth. 14 To this very destiny he called YOU through the good news we declare, for the purpose of acquiring the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
It is their selection by God and also by their own faith in the truth that they can see through the deception and lies propagated by the drunkards who have been overcome and undermined by the operation of Satans weeds.
There is no other candidate for these drunkards other than the Governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses and the WatchTower, Bible and Tract Society.
You can be certain they think they are wise and rich and do not need any admonishments from me.
What though does it mean to drink with them?
If you are a faithfull anointed one loyal to Jesus Christ would you like to celebrate the memorial of his death through an arrangement made by these drunkards who have made a covenant with death, told lies, undermined Jesus Christs Sovereignty and lifted themselves up above his station right inside the holy temple?
Of course not!
So under these circumstances how does a loyal anointed one celebrate the memorial of Jesus Christs death?
Jesus Christ personally takes care of this himself and explained how this would take place for those loyal ones who can see through the deceit:
Revelation 3
18 I advise you to buy from me gold refined by fire that you may become rich, and white outer garments that you may become dressed and that the shame of your nakedness may not become manifested, and eyesalve to rub in your eyes that you may see.
19 “‘All those for whom I have affection I reprove and discipline. Therefore be zealous and repent. 20 Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come into his [house] and take the evening meal with him and he with me. 21 To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’”
Jesus Christ himself will personally take care of the memorial by coming into the very house of those loyal to him and taking the evening meal there.
What a beautiful provision to make considering all the awful deceits, lies, injustices and hypocricies those loyal to him have had to endure.
You can be certain that it is those who celebrate the memorial inside the arrangement provided at Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses who are the ones who will be "drinking with the confirmed drunkards".
It is they who will finally realise that what I have said here is absolutely true, giving them much cause to weep and gnash their teeth.
Celebrating the memorial with a part of God's organization who have prostituted themselves in such an evil way is an enormous act of spiritual fornication.
Revelation 17
“Come, I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”
If you are an anointed one with the hope of being a king over the earth please do not celebrate the memorial on April 12th in the Kingdom Hall arrangement.
If you have read and understood this you are also obliged to infrom those who you suspect might be of the anointed. Either personally or on an Internet forum to which you are a registered member.
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Can you Handle this Profundity? - 2006/04/06 00:20If you have read and understood the post above and also read my post on the great tribulation and the earthquake you should now be ready for the next profundity.
The earthquake mentioned in Revelation Chapter 11 is the same one discussed in my Great Tribulation Post:
12 And they heard a loud voice out of heaven say to them: “Come on up here.” And they went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies beheld them. 13 And in that hour a great earthquake occurred, and a tenth of the city fell; and seven thousand persons were killed by the earthquake, and the rest became frightened and gave glory to the God of heaven.
What is being given attention by this earthquake in particular is Babylon The Great. The Harlot from Revelation 17 mentioned in my post above.
The seven thousand persons killed by the earthquake are those who are drinking with the drunkards.
Could some one please respond with how many partook at the Memorial arrangement in Kingdom Halls last year?
Is it really Babylon the Great which is being given attention by this earthquake?
According to the scriptures................ yes:
Revelation 16
18 And lightnings and voices and thunders occurred, and a great earthquake occurred such as had not occurred since men came to be on the earth, so extensive an earthquake, so great. 19 And the great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell; and Babylon the Great was remembered in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath. 20 Also, every island fled, and mountains were not found. 21 And a great hail with every stone about the weight of a talent descended out of heaven upon the men, and the men blasphemed God due to the plague of hail, because the plague of it was unusually great.
Will you be one of the very few who will understand this?
If you do the obligation to warn those who drink with the drunkards also falls heavily on your shoulders.
By understanding this you should find comfort in knowing that the end is here.
What happens at the end?
Jesus Christ comes and takes over as King of This World.
Revelation 11 continues:
14 The second woe is past. Look! The third woe is coming quickly. 15 And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”
If you have been drinking with the drunkards perhaps now is the time you should start gnashing your teeth.
If you have been drinking with the drunkards is there anything left which you can do?
Jesus Christ gave some advice:
Revelation 3
18 I advise you to buy from me gold refined by fire that you may become rich, and white outer garments that you may become dressed and that the shame of your nakedness may not become manifested, and eyesalve to rub in your eyes that you may see. 19 “‘All those for whom I have affection I reprove and discipline. Therefore be zealous and repent. 20 Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come into his [house] and take the evening meal with him and he with me. 21 To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’”
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If you refuse to drink with them? - 2006/04/09 11:06So if you take a stand as one of the anointed ones or even in support of one what is likely to happen to you inside the Kingdom Hall arrangement?
Yes, you will eventually be brought to a Judicial Commitee who will want to know why you have taken your stand.
If you continue to be loyal to Jesus Christ the King they will disfellowship you.
According to the new book which replaced the "Organized to Accomplish our Ministry" book they will have to make a short statement in front of your hometown congregation as follows:
"insert name here; is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnessess"
Please do not be concerned however, as this was prophecied to happen in the bible:
Romans 9
25 It is as he says also in Ho·se´a: “Those not my people I will call ‘my people,’ and her who was not beloved ‘beloved’; 26 and in the place where it was said to them, ‘YOU are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’”
27 Moreover, Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Although the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, it is the remnant that will be saved
I recommend that you read Hosea which should now start to take on a beautifull meaning for you.
Although it is very hard to argue that Jehovah's Witnessess have indeed been persecuted for Jehovah's name you would be very hard pressed to find anyone of them being persecuted for Jesus Christs sake.
Until now:
Matthew 5
11 “Happy are YOU when people reproach YOU and persecute YOU and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against YOU for my sake. 12 Rejoice and leap for joy, since YOUR reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to YOU.
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Babylon the Small vs Babylon the Great - 2006/04/24 04:52Celebrating the memorial with a part of God's organization who have prostituted themselves in such an evil way is an enormous act of spiritual fornication which, those loyal to Jesus recognize and so refrain from participating.
There is another very profound scripture which, mentions kings committing spiritual fornication with drunkards who have prostituted themselves.
Here it is:
Revelation 17
“Come, I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”
Yes, this is the same scripture which identifies the mystery of “Babylon the Great”.
Revelation 17:4
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and was adorned with gold and precious stone and pearls and had in her hand a golden cup that was full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication. 5 And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” 6 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.
If you contemplate the motives and actions of the lesser Babylon then you will understand why the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Bible and Tract Society which has been built by them and called the WatchTower are in fact the Greater Babylon or Babylon the Great.
The lesser Babylon mentioned in Genesis is the antitype of Babylon the Great the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses whose motives have achieved exactly the same as their lawless predecessors:
Genesis 11:4
4 They now said: “Come on! Let us build ourselves a city and also a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a celebrated name for ourselves,
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are the ones who at one time accurately knew the truth and yet have now been undermined by Satan’s powerful works. They have changed the holy baptismal commandment given by Jesus after he was raised from the dead and so have lifted themselves above his station right inside God’s holy temple. They have built themselves a great city containing over 6 million people and elevated it to the heavens in order to make a celebrated name just for themselves.
The mystery is now almost finished.
What happens next?
Revelation 10:7
7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”
Revelation 11:15
15 And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”
What will Jesus Christ do to those who have committed spiritual fornication?
Matthew answers:
48 “But if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ 49 and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.
Notice above that the Judgment comes on a specific day and hour that surprises them.
With this in mind now contemplate the day and specific hour mentioned for Babylon the Great's judment in the book of Revelation:
Revelation 18
7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong.
9 “And the kings of the earth who committed fornication with her and lived in shameless luxury will weep and beat themselves in grief over her, when they look at the smoke from the burning of her, 10 while they stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and say, ‘Too bad, too bad, you great city, Babylon you strong city, because in one hour your judgment has arrived!’
What does Revelation say the Kings will do?
"weep and beat themselves in grief"
and in the book of Matthew what did Jesus say those annointed kings who are eating and drinking with the drunkards would do?
assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where weeping and the gnashing of teeth will be.
Is the gnashing of teeth a form of beating themselves in grief?
You know the answer.
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Get Out! - 2006/04/30 08:57So what if you are a righteous person who is truly sincere about serving Jehovah and our King his son Jesus Christ and being loyal to them rather than causing the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnessess to continue living in their shameless luxury and reveling in their celebrated name.
If you are participating in the encouragement of baptisms through the arrangement that Satan and his weeds have invented in order to taunt the ruler of the Universe then you are being held captive.
Captive by who?
You are a captive of Babylon the Great.
Do you applaud at these events when a new one makes his vows to "Gods spirit directed organization".
If yes, then you are venerating Satan and his weeds.
You are held captive by an unrighteous deception and lies just as foretold by the Apostle Paul in his letter to the Thessalonians. (2Th2)
This releasing of righteous ones was foretold by Isaiah:
1 The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, for the reason that Jehovah has anointed me to tell good news to the meek ones. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to those taken captive and the wide opening [of the eyes] even to the prisoners; 2 to proclaim the year of goodwill on the part of Jehovah and the day of vengeance on the part of our God; to comfort all the mourning ones; 3 to assign to those mourning over Zion, to give them a headdress instead of ashes, the oil of exultation instead of mourning, the mantle of praise instead of the downhearted spirit; and they must be called big trees of righteousness, the planting of Jehovah, for [him] to be beautified. 4 And they must rebuild the long-standing devastated places; they will raise up even the desolated places of former times, and they will certainly make anew the devastated cities, the places desolate for generation after generation.
So now what do you do?
Revelation leaves no doubt about what those loyal to God and his son our King Jesus Christs should do:
Revelation 18
4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind.
so
Get out!
What is prophesied to happen once you are out?
Continue reading in Isaiah.
Please don't get left behind.
Someone should also let these people know as I am certain there are many loyal ones there:
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Synagogue of Satan - 2006/05/03 12:21Where is it that the Bible says Satan would sow his weeds?
In God's Kingdom!
Revelation makes it very clear what serving Jesus Christ will be like in the Lords Day:
Revelation 2:8
9 ‘I know your tribulation and poverty—but you are rich—and the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan.
Where are Satans weeds dwelling in the Lords Day?
Revelation 2:12
13 ‘I know where you are dwelling, that is, where the throne of Satan is; and yet you keep on holding fast my name, and you did not deny your faith in me even in the days of An´ti·pas, my witness, the faithful one, who was killed by YOUR side, where Satan is dwelling.
They are dwelling by your side!
What do Satans Weeds want you to do?
They want you to participate in the Memorial Service invented by them so that you will be enticed into eating things sacrificed to idols and commiting spiritual fornication. They want you to eat and drink their bread and wine. They want you to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards!
Revelation 2:14
14 “‘Nevertheless, I have a few things against you, that you have there those holding fast the teaching of Ba´laam, who went teaching Ba´lak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit fornication.
There will be some of the annointed who don't think celebrating the Memorial in the Kingdom Halls is a big deal, they continue to tolerate the horrendous taunting right to Jehovah's face without even flinching at the thought!
Revelation 2:20
that you tolerate that woman Jez´e·bel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and misleads my slaves to commit fornication and to eat things sacrificed to idols.
Satans weeds are dwelling right in amoung you and they are lying to you with great success!
Revelation 3:9
9 Look! I will give those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews, and yet they are not but are lying—look! I will make them come and do obeisance before your feet and make them know I have loved you.
At least there will be some who recognise this and do something about it!
Are you one of them?
Carefully contemplating Revelation Chapter 2 and 3 it becomes obvious that in the Lords Day there will be those who convince others that they are Jews and therefore have already obtained Jesus Christs approval. These same ones will be perpetrating a lie.
Do you know of any esoteric Christian group who claim to have already obtained Jesus Christs approval?
As reported by Jesus Christ himself in Revelation living in these conditions while remaining faithfull and loyal to him will be very difficult.
Be carefull
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