@ e-watchtowerman - 2006/04/20 10:17e-magine xmnr spud John gogh wuji nick steadfast conflicted Terra Nova Stinger Derek (and others)
(If you read this please contact the others for me, thanks for contacting them, be blessed)
Dear fellow lover of God,
I am writing this message to you and many others... because I noted certain qualities in you... that your spirit demands openness and freedom from slavery or idolatry. And this we have formost in common.
It is sad but true, the e-watchtowerman forum is Orwellian as the Watchtower corporation; having an appearance of freedom but only illusionary. If anyone ventures into deep things past the curtant of lies they are quickly censored as I have been. Infact, I have been kicked off that forum many times by the thought police. Some there are still enslaved to the Watchtower idol even though that terrany calls them apostates. One can only conclude some there still have residuals of there brainwashed state... which makes them act with spiritual castration and cowardice.
What God needs from us now is strength of character and the courage to speak the truth. And infact to openly and honestly search for the truth. We have a ministry, and together we are stronger then any idol autocracy.
We have so much potential, please I beg you... let us unite and cooperatively free as many brothers and sisters as we can.
There is nothing we cannot do or achieve for God.
Please note that I am not discouraging you from fellowship on that forum, or from fellowship within the Watchtower corporation. What I am suggesting is that there is something more powerful... freedom and openness to search all things holy, and I know you have that spirit in you.
This forum does not have thought police; If we need a better forum, then we can make one.
I am also interested in us doing a sabbath bible study/talk on paltalk. That could be a very useful ministry tool and encourage bible students to share in.
Whether we unite now or later, it is going to happen. Why not start it now. When the delusions of our fellow "apostates" have run there course they will join us.
1 "Put the trumpet to your lips! An eagle is over the house of the LORD because the people have broken my covenant and rebelled against my law. 2 Israel cries out to me, 'O our God, we acknowledge you!'
3 But Israel has rejected what is good; an enemy will pursue him.
4 They set up kings without my consent; they choose princes without my approval. With their silver and gold they make idols for themselves to their own destruction.
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ablebodiedman
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Re:@ e-watchtowerman - 2006/04/20 13:09Hosea 9
7 The days of punishment are coming, the days of reckoning are at hand. Let Israel know this. Because your sins are so many and your hostility so great, the prophet is considered a fool, the inspired man a maniac.
8 The prophet, along with my God, is the watchman over Ephraim, [b] yet snares await him on all his paths, and hostility in the house of his God.
9 They have sunk deep into corruption, as in the days of Gibeah. God will remember their wickedness and punish them for their sins.
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Jinnvisible
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Re:@ e-watchtowerman - 2006/04/21 19:08" Yahovah is understood in entirety as a vector space denoted here by theta with a scalar multipule of infinity for which possess all power."
Hi Mars,
I`m sorry that your account was suspended from the e-disscussion board again. when I look at your above statement concerning a scientific understanding of Jah one thing yells out to me instantly.
" Yahovah is understood in entirety "
Now science and intellectualism continualy offer thier own context. For instance the scriptures report that Jehovah was the God of Israel. Now you could state a context - upon that understanding, which is not appropriate.
You could state that `Jehovah is understood entirely as the God of Israel`. That wouldn`t really be straight talking because Jehovah is the God of everything Israel or not. Hense Christ`s word to Pilate indicating that he accepted Jehovah had given authority to pilate.
Making emensely scientific statements using mathematics and such concerning the creation is fine. Yet when it leads to statements such as,,,, - Jehovah is entirely understood as ,,,,,. It seems that the intellect has overtaken humility. I have never read in the scripture that Jehovah is entirely understood as anything. it seems to be an inappropriate contextualisation.
I don`t follow you in your assertaions that this is all down to group thinking or such like. I didn`t regard anyone elses thinking when I look at what you are saying and find it cleverness for its own sake.
Jehovah is the one who created all things yet to say Jah is entirely understood as anything seems condesending.
Because the societies literature has become a crap shoot, doesn`t mean everything anyone else has to say is righteous.
For instance where have you said `I`m sorry if i affended anyone` or `Perhaps I shouldn`t have put it that way` or `it might mean something different to someone else`.
Where is the indication in what you have to say that demonstates that you raise the element of your own spiritual maturity above your intellect ?
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polemotheos
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Re:@ e-watchtowerman - 2006/04/21 21:53Jinnvisible wrote: " Yahovah is understood in entirety as a vector space denoted here by theta with a scalar multipule of infinity for which possess all power."
Hi Mars,
I`m sorry that your account was suspended from the e-disscussion board again. when I look at your above statement concerning a scientific understanding of Jah one thing yells out to me instantly.
" Yahovah is understood in entirety "
Now science and intellectualism continualy offer thier own context. For instance the scriptures report that Jehovah was the God of Israel. Now you could state a context - upon that understanding, which is not appropriate.
You could state that `Jehovah is understood entirely as the God of Israel`. That wouldn`t really be straight talking because Jehovah is the God of everything Israel or not. Hense Christ`s word to Pilate indicating that he accepted Jehovah had given authority to pilate.
Making emensely scientific statements using mathematics and such concerning the creation is fine. Yet when it leads to statements such as,,,, - Jehovah is entirely understood as ,,,,,. It seems that the intellect has overtaken humility. I have never read in the scripture that Jehovah is entirely understood as anything. it seems to be an inappropriate contextualisation.
I don`t follow you in your assertaions that this is all down to group thinking or such like. I didn`t regard anyone elses thinking when I look at what you are saying and find it cleverness for its own sake.
Jehovah is the one who created all things yet to say Jah is entirely understood as anything seems condesending.
Because the societies literature has become a crap shoot, doesn`t mean everything anyone else has to say is righteous.
For instance where have you said `I`m sorry if i affended anyone` or `Perhaps I shouldn`t have put it that way` or `it might mean something different to someone else`.
Where is the indication in what you have to say that demonstates that you raise the element of your own spiritual maturity above your intellect ? Well said, very persuasive. I will ask a simple question to give perspecitive on this disscussion;
Is Yahovah understood in entirety as Yahovah?
Think carefully about that one.
What I am pointing out to you is a tautology. Tautologies are absolutely and irrifutably true!
Imagine if all our beliefs were formulated from tautologies... my goodness you would speak with authority.
But in reference to the first proposition it has been reworded;
"Therefore, Yahovah is the infinite spatiotemporal manifold which possess all power."
A manifold can be a vector space, but that depends on how many dimensions there are. There is actually many reasons why I changed the wording...
If you noticed, the equations have changed several times as well... so if your going to critique something I said consider using the updated version.
The first proposition is derived from a supertautology developed by a genius;
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