The website isn't the prettiest thing that I've ever seen, however his message is fascinating. In a nutshell, the author--Daniel Fitzpatrick--says that the fundamental forces of the universe can all be explained by the same mechanism: the continuous movement of subatomic particles.
His premise is completely unconventional; however, to me, it has the "ring of truth." Fitzpatrick eloquently starts on a subatomic level, and is able to explain why atoms hold together, while at the same time the galaxies appear to be repelling each other.
BTW, Mars:
Every day--as I delve into quantum physics-- I find myself agreeing with your pantheistic viewpoint. I'm convinced that PURE science is totally compatible with the existence of a creator. In fact, any Unification Theory is completely useless if it doesn't include an intelligent Creator in the equation. Quantum physics conclusively proves that everything that exists is fashioned from tiny packets of energy.
Although I now doubt that the Bible is an inspired book, I do feel that many of its writers had moments of brilliant insights into how things really are. That's why Isaiah came up with what I think perfectly connects quantum physics with the existence of Jehovah:
“Raise YOUR eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who is bringing forth the army of them even by number, all of whom he calls even by name. Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power, not one [of them] is missing. 27 “For what reason do you say, O Jacob, and do you speak out, O Israel, ‘My way has been concealed from Jehovah, and justice to me eludes my God himself’? 28 Have you not come to know or have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the extremities of the earth, is a God to time indefinite. He does not tire out or grow weary. There is no searching out of his understanding. 29 He is giving to the tired one power; and to the one without dynamic energy he makes full might abound.
(Isaiah 40:26-29)
I feel that these undeniable facts are the very foundation of Theophysics. (BTW, Mars: I really like that phrase. Do you mind if I borrow it in some of my future essays?)
Anyway, sorry to ramble on. I'll try to do better in later posts...
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Re:Theophysics - 2005/06/02 05:19genlado wrote: You guys might have read this before, but here's somebody who claims to have come up with a Unification Theory that covers all four forces:
The website isn't the prettiest thing that I've ever seen, however his message is fascinating. In a nutshell, the author--Daniel Fitzpatrick--says that the fundamental forces of the universe can all be explained by the same mechanism: the continuous movement of subatomic particles.
I have been studying "the final theory" by Mark McCutcheon. It demonstrates the limits of quatum theory and even relativity. The unifying theory is expanision of electrons.
BTW, Mars: Every day--as I delve into quantum physics-- I find myself agreeing with your pantheistic viewpoint. I'm convinced that PURE science is totally compatible with the existence of a creator. In fact, any Unification Theory is completely useless if it doesn't include an intelligent Creator in the equation. Quantum physics conclusively proves that everything that exists is fashioned from tiny packets of energy.
I personally do not believe in quantum physics beyond probabiliy equations which happen to have nothing to do with quantum theory. The rest to me is a bunch of hocus pocus. There theories come from measuring electons in a dense field of electrons. Thats like throwing a pile of hay into a mound of hay and then measuring the different lengths of straw you can find. Intrestingly all of the "different" particals are the size of an electron......
I do feel that many of its writers had moments of brilliant insights into how things really are. That's why Isaiah came up with what I think perfectly connects quantum physics with the existence of Jehovah:
The bible is scientifically accurate though it is not a science text book. By the way E=m*c^2 does connect the consept of energy with the existence of Jehovah but that is not an equation from quantum physics.
I feel that these undeniable facts are the very foundation of Theophysics. (BTW, Mars: I really like that phrase. Do you mind if I borrow it in some of my future essays?)
I havent even written my essay yet and they are allready stilling my words. Just kidding go ahead.
Anyway, sorry to ramble on. I'll try to do better in later posts... The General
Re:Theophysics - 2005/06/09 09:01"What may be known about God is manifest among [us], for God made it manifest to [us]. For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, ..." (Romans 1:19-20)
This essay is a demonstration of these words which point out that Jehovah's eternal power and Godship is known and manifest to us by the physical realities we perceive.
One fundamental law in physics is the Law of Conservation of Energy; Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but merely changes from one form to another.
If energy cannot be created nor destroyed then it has always existed. How is this possible? God is the only one that has always existed, having never been created and certainly can never be destroyed.
Before the beginning what was there? Only God. No persons or things were yet created. What might surprise you is creation itself is merely the transformations of God. Not something made out of what did not already exist.
We ourselves are creatures of condensed energy, we are sentient beings of matter.
"All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds... the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter." -- Max Planck
Each of us are symphonic compositions of the matrix of God. "For by [God] we have life and move and exist" (Acts 17:28). Jehovah actuates our entire existence.
“Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power,.. Jehovah, the Creator,...is a God to time indefinite." (Isaiah 40:26-28)
Physics points out (E=m*c^2) that matter is just another form of energy. However it also demonstrates that matter has not always existed and that the universe was actually brought into existence.
At this point I think it is easy for many to understand why God himself actually fills the entire universe. (Jeremiah 23:24)
Some assume that God is far away from us sitting on a literal throne in heaven. This could not be further from the truth. “'The heavens, yes, the heavens of the heavens, themselves cannot contain [God]” (1 Kings 8:27). “In fact, [Jehovah] is not far off from... us.” (Acts 17:27)
Much of the mangled maze of theology is unraveled by the contemplation of theophysics.
For example the trinity doctrine; If all are the transformations of God then how could any elite grouping of those transformations be exclusively God? That's like saying the universe revolves around the earth. Clearly that is not the case.
Another example is the incomprehensible holy spirit doctrine.
God is the only one that is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, and omni... etc ad infinitum. (classical pantheism)
Also consider that every single thing the holy spirit is said to do the angels are also said to do!
(2 Samuel 23:2) “The spirit of Jehovah it was that spoke by me, And his word was upon my tongue.” (Hebrews 2:12)“…the word spoken through angels…” (Galatians 3:19) “…it was transmitted through angels...” (Revelation 1:1) “… And he sent forth his angel and presented [it]…” (Acts 7:38) “…with the angel that spoke to him… …he received living sacred pronouncements...” (Hebrews 3:7) “For this reason, just as the holy spirit says: “Today if YOU people listen to his own voice,” (2 Peter 1:21) “For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved by holy spirit.”
It is clear to me that the angels are the holy spirit of God. They are finite beings of sentient transforming energy. They can materialize as men (If God allows them). They are the tools of God for the manifestation of his presence.
"So also YOU yourselves, since YOU are zealously desirous of spirit's, seek to abound in them for the upbuilding of the congregation." (1 Corinthians 14:12)
We give credit to daimons for the powers which humans by being possessed by them have; for giving amazing strength, foretelling events, and various magical arts.
Maybe it is time for God's people to be aware of our spirit friends as well.
Jesus is the first transformation of Jehovah and the foremost messenger of God's consciousness. Jesus is the first created sentience, a powerful being of transforming energy.
I have given you everything I have received so far. I thank God for what we have and what we will continue to be blessed with. May God's spirit abound in you, always.
Re:Theophysics - 2005/06/20 05:24polemotheos wrote: I have been studying "the final theory" by Mark McCutcheon. It demonstrates the limits of quatum theory and even relativity. The unifying theory is expanision of electrons. I am pretty close to disproving this theory mathematically and experimentally.
I wrote; I personally do not believe in quantum physics beyond probabiliy equations which happen to have nothing to do with quantum theory. I say something stupid every one hundred posts... this would be one of them.
genlando wrote: I feel that these undeniable facts are the very foundation of Theophysics. (BTW, Mars: I really like that phrase. Do you mind if I borrow it in some of my future essays?)
I hope you do write an essay on this... I look forward to your insights.
Re:Theophysics - 2005/06/20 18:48genlado wrote: They got three forces covered so far - Electro Magnetism, Weak force and Strong Force but not gravity yet.
You guys might have read this before, but here's somebody who claims to have come up with a Unification Theory that covers all four forces:
The website isn't the prettiest thing that I've ever seen, however his message is fascinating. In a nutshell, the author--Daniel Fitzpatrick--says that the fundamental forces of the universe can all be explained by the same mechanism: the continuous movement of subatomic particles.
His premise is completely unconventional; however, to me, it has the "ring of truth." Fitzpatrick eloquently starts on a subatomic level, and is able to explain why atoms hold together, while at the same time the galaxies appear to be repelling each other. thank you I just checked that out. it seems really intresting I will have to investigate it in more detail.Your Peace, Surrender, In You, YHVH Re-connect Co-operative
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