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Re:Theophysics - 2005/03/27 11:13 Warrior wrote:
Mars - can you explain more clearly what it means to be "made from God or of God?"

It's all sounding a little pantheistic to me.

Your welcome to read the omnipresence essay. Although I admit it needs work.

http://polemotheos.home.comcast.net/pub/omnipresence.html
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Re:Theophysics - 2005/03/27 18:11 It's very Good, but it doesn't really answer my question.
(unless there's a problem with my computer and I only got half of it. )

I don't have a problem with God creating something from nothing and still filling the universe. I'm not being scientific here because I think science is a poor tool with which to grasp revelation.

If we are all made out of God's "being, essence, substance" (I'm trying to work out exactly what you're saying here) then it's a theory floating very close to patheism.

You seem to be trying to apply fallable, scientific rules to one who is beyond science.
But I'm willing to be convinced on this.
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Re:Theophysics - 2005/05/12 20:44 Warrior wrote:
It's very Good, but it doesn't really answer my question.
(unless there's a problem with my computer and I only got half of it. )

I don't have a problem with God creating something from nothing and still filling the universe. I'm not being scientific here because I think science is a poor tool with which to grasp revelation.

If we are all made out of God's "being, essence, substance" (I'm trying to work out exactly what you're saying here) then it's a theory floating very close to patheism.

You seem to be trying to apply fallable, scientific rules to one who is beyond science.
But I'm willing to be convinced on this.


Yes I believe in classical pantheism which equates existence with God without attempting to redefine or to minimize either term. (not to be confused with polytheism)
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Re:Theophysics - 2005/05/12 21:34 HI

Be patient I never liked science at school, but I see that what Jehovah has used to creat us could be himself same as everything because there was Jehovah and nothing.

So its like this everytime Jehovah destroys somthin he is destroying part of himself, when you look at it that way you can understand whjy Jehovah is patient and merciful cant you.
But hey that just a thought from me
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Re:Theophysics - 2005/05/13 16:37 Warrior wrote:
But I'm willing to be convinced on this.

That was a good punch line. funny funny ha ha
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Re:Theophysics - 2005/05/14 18:34 Why was it funny?

I thought you leaned toward pantheism. It shows in your essays.

I understand what you mean by it I think, although I dislike pantheism as it is a basic tenet of the Hindu faith (alongside polytheism) All is Brahman, I am God, God is me, we are all one etc.

But I think know where you're coming from with this, at vleast in part.

I don't actually have a problem with God bringing things into creation that are not a part of him/his substance etc. He alone can create something from nothing. Its by his word that all things have their existence, that which was not becomes that which is when God speaks.

He made Adam from the dust on the ground. I have no problem with believing that dust was not a part of God. God is holy, that which is not holy cannot be "God" in any shape, way or form. Being holy means to be set apart, not a part of.

I don't think God is restricted to using "himself" to create, but I have no way of explaining this properly so I won't try to.

However, we're still restricted to clumsy words here Mars, so you might well be explaining something where words are inadequate for the task. You might think it's a joke (for some reason) but I'm still keeping a bit of an open mind on this topic because I still don't fully understand exactly what you're saying.

Still, it's an interesting topic.

Post edited by: Warrior, at: 2005/05/14 18:38
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