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MissAnnThrope
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 Blood: Altogether Taboo or Dietary Restriction? - 2005/03/19 19:46 I would love to revisit this issue and discuss the reasoning for and against the current and past WTBTS prohibition on blood. I am not sure how I feel about the issue and I know that while some feel that it is absolutely unacceptable to take in blood under any circumstances, others have reasoned that the scriptures do not support this stance. My only request is that any discussion take place with love and respect for the potentially divergent positions/stances on this controversial topic. I do not want to be the cause of any devisiveness, but I would truly like to explore this topic in great detail utilizing the spiritual resources available here. Any takers?

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 Re:Blood: Altogether Taboo or Dietary Restriction? - 2005/03/19 19:52 I think I am in the same place you are MAT. I would like to see a discussion too. Your Peace, Surrender, In You,
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 Re:Blood: Altogether Taboo or Dietary Restriction? - 2005/03/20 00:14 Hi MAT and Mars!

Great idea. Where is that Galileo when you need him eh? I have personally reached a decision I am very comfortable with after much deliberation, but will have to go and get my thinking cap on again and dig out the relevant Scriptures in order to express why I believe as I do. So I'll come back and post my thought's on that soon. No doubt we will all have quite varied opinions. It is a sensitive subject, but clearly it is also a vital one to understand and so I think a loving discussion of all the issues involved would be excellent.

Much Philia

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 Re:Blood: Altogether Taboo or Dietary Restriction? - 2005/03/20 03:26 I've never really understood the JW blood thing.

I know about draining meat of its blood in the kosher way, but I don't really understand why transfusions aren't allowed. Since transfusions didn't exist back then it seems a bit arbatary to outlaw them. (I've read a few arguements but I never really agreed with them or understood the importance placed upon this one issue by the JW's)

In Jewish law, it is permissable to set aside any commandment or rule if the object is to save a life. (the example given is that shabbat law can be broken because the one whose life is saved will celebrate many shabbats in the future.) Life is valued very much because it is a gift from God.

The only commandmants that cannot be set aside in this way are Adultary, Idolitary and murder.

Shalom.
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 Re:Blood: Altogether Taboo or Dietary Restriction? - 2005/03/20 03:50 Warrior wrote:
I know about draining meat of its blood in the kosher way, but I don't really understand why transfusions aren't allowed. Since transfusions didn't exist back then it seems a bit arbatary to outlaw them. ...The only commandmants that cannot be set aside in this way are Adultary, Idolitary and murder.
Just to get our thinking caps on but not encouraging adultary. I will say it in a similar vein as you speak of blood. "Since condoms did not exist back then it seems a bit arbatary to outlaw adultary."

Just something to get us thinking. I am sure we all believe adultary is wrong maybe it is more than a physical health aspect?

By the way maybe we can catagorize the health benifits of not consuming blood. Can you think of any. And in this process we may be able to understand the important why as to the command to abstain from blood.

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Mars

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 Re:Blood: Altogether Taboo or Dietary Restriction? - 2005/03/20 05:07 Um Mars - that's not what I said.

Since blood transfusions didn't exist back then it seems a bit abatary to outlaw Blood transfusions.

To make a parallel you'd have to say "Since condoms didn't exist back then it seems a bit arbatary to outlaw condoms." ?????
(If I was catholic, I might have something to say here.)

Do you mean that just because we've invented something to help us sin more convientiently it shouldn't make the sin any more acceptable???? I'm just trying to understand something about you guys.

No, I certainly agree with the health benifits of not ingesting blood, I don't believe Yah ever made a rule that wasn't important for our benefit, but having a transfusion is not ingesting (although there is an arguement for intravanous feeding I suppose) and I think saving lives is actually worth it.

That's all. MUch love and shalom.
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